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  1. MichaelSchorpp

    MichaelSchorpp Ride Organizer

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    I'm having some trouble uploading multiple GPX files (tracklogs) to my Garmin 78. The manual says the 78 can store 200 tracklogs of 10,000 points each. I'm manually dropping the files into the 78's memory. The problem is they are not showing up on the 78's screen. I've tried putting them into J:\Garmin\GPX and J:\Garmin\GPX\Archive. Any tips?
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    Best tip,,,, Calling Bob,,, Mr Dual Sport pick up please. :)
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    The short answer - either put all the tracks in ONE file and save it as a GPX and then drop it in the \Garmin\GPX folder, or use multiple files but ensure they have DIFFERENT names. Once in the GPS you MUST use Track Manager to set each track to "Show on Map" as Garmin decided to default that to "Hide".

    Medium answer - import all the tracks into BaseCamp, click "My Collection", use "Tracks" filter, highlight tracks to transfer, right-click "Send To ..." and then choose your GPS. You still need to set the tracks to "Show".

    Long Answer - The newer Garmins handle files differently to the older GPS like the 60 and 72 series - especially when using Mapsource. Older GPS usually transfer tracks (routes and waypoints) to the GPS internal memory using Garmin protocol. Newer GPS usually set the GPS internal and plugin memory as an external drive via a USB connection. If you use BaseCamp to transfer the data, the files are named correctly and placed in the correct folders. If you use Mapsource, then each file transfer puts the data in a file named userdata.gpx so the next transfer overwrites the previous file. I use Mapsource but I rename the file uniquely before I do the next transfer. I haven't found the limit to the number of GPX files (not tracks, one GPX can have up to 200 tracks) you can transfer but it seems very high. After your tracks are on the GPS, you need to manually set them to show on the map. Use the Track Manager to set the track properties. The drag and drop you are doing should work if a) files have different names, and b) you set the track properties to "Show".

    The BEST answer - if you have LOTS of tracks, convert them to a Garmin transparent overlay map and use them in your GPS like your other maps. I offer this conversion service to ODSC member free-of-charge :)

    Bob
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  4. MichaelSchorpp

    MichaelSchorpp Ride Organizer

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    Thanks for the help Bob. Using the info above I did upload what I needed.

    It was interesting to look through the My Collections folder in Basecamp, apparently Basecamp will automatically scan your GPS and store everything in My Collections? I found all my old archive files which I never bothered transferring manually.

    Mike
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    Not sure if you are really looking at "My Collection" as that only shows the data (tracks, routes, waypoints) that you actually "Imported" into BaseCamp - either from your GPS or from Folders on your computer. If your GPS is plugged into the USB port, you will see all the data still on your GPS (e..g. all your Archived tracklogs) but the are not "in BaseCamp" - they're still in your GPS if you "never bothered transferring them manually". I'm not aware of any setting to "automatically scan your GPS and store everything".

    This was my major problem with BaseCamp when it first came out - I was unsure what My Collection actually was as I had a huge collection of GPS data in a very structured set of folders that I opened in Mapsource, edited/whatever, and then saved. In BaseCamp, My Collection is just a datafile that lists the actual data in the file no matter where it is - it isn't the file itself. When you delete data in My Collection it just removes the database record and the file is still on your PC (or GPS). I know this sounds confusing and it's the reason I still use Mapsource for all my GPS data.

    However, BaseCamp has some good features that should make it worthwhile making the effort to switch from the obselete (and unsupported) Mapsource.

    Bob
  6. MichaelSchorpp

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    I took a closer look on how I upload tracks to Mapsource and Basecamp. When I download tracks from the GPS in Mapsource it only gets the current track; in Basecamp it seems to get the current track plus all the tracks which are not already in My Collection. (which is alot better for me-I would have lost alot of stuff otherwise).
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    BaseCamp is the only Garmin official program for use with the "current" generation of GPS. Mapsource was officially discontinued after the release of Version 6.16.3 in October 2010.

    The newer GPS allow for multiple map files (*.img instead of gmapsupp.img) and multiple data files (*.gpx instead of Userdata.gpx) so Mapsource will always overwrite data on the newer GPS and you need to understand the file structure if you want to stay with Mapsource. However, Mapsource will download the Current tracklog plus any Saved tracklogs (which are in Internal memory) but to retrieve Archived tracklogs (from the mSD Card) you need to go intoUSB Mass Storage Mode. BaseCamp automatically accesses Internal and plug-in memory.

    Bottom line - forget Mapsource and really learn BaseCamp.

    Bob
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