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  1. Eduardo

    Eduardo ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Sill trusty and functional, my 76CSx "needs" to be updated.

    It seems like the Montana 650 or similar may be the right choice.
    https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?cID=145&pID=75227

    While I Don't really need a camera, specs like: LARGE SCREEN, AA batteries and the usual good routes, tracks, waypoints setup seem to be to my liking

    The question is: How does the touch screen work for you on dusty/muddy rainy as you try to navigate w/o stopping to go through menu screens?

    Please share your experiences with the Montana or the similar Oregon if you had the happy chance to use them on good rides

    Cheers!

    Eduardo.
  2. michel mondou

    michel mondou ODSC President

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    Ed, why do you need a large screen all of a sudden? I'm in the same boat as you: I have a Garmin 76 that works really well, but the screen is getting harder to read. I don't want to have to deal with glasses on the trails, so I too have been thinking of a LARGER screen GPS. Gotta love getting old #-o ...

    Michel
  3. MikeF

    MikeF ODSC-OFTR Member

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    The Montana 600 does not have a camera. I do not like paying a premium for something I will never use.

    I use an Oregon 450 (again, without the camera; it is included on the Oregon 550). My only complaint, if you can call it that, is the screen size. I've been using it for almost 18 months both on-road and off-road.

    I have a screen protector installed to prevent scratches. The touch screen is pressure sensitive, not the capacitive type that an iPhone would use, for example, so it works while wearing gloves. Given the size of the on-screen elements and the screen itself, it's impossible to accurately select smaller items with gloves on. This has not been a problem for me.

    Keep in mind that you should never be navigating a user interface of any GPS w/o stopping. You're endangering yourself by taking your eyes off the road/trail. I think we've all done it and had close calls as a result.

    I am planning on upgrade to the Montana 600 in the short term.
  4. Eduardo

    Eduardo ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Well Michel, I heard it for YEARS on many... topics: apparently size matters.

    I swaped my 76 for an older eTrex (B&W) on a recent trip... and realized how nice is to have a better (bigger and brighter) screen like in the 76.
    So I figure going larger yet... to the Montana 650 will be even better.

    While I can see the screen well, it is taking me longer to focus from down the trail to fine details in the GPS. Time to focus is say 1.5 seconds but it just feels so wrong, it is like 1.5 seconds of impending doom.

    maybe I just need glasses :D any optometrist in da house?

    e.
  5. 3BeeJay3

    3BeeJay3 ODSC Past President

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    Why? What could possibly go wrong? :lol:
  6. Dizzy

    Dizzy Limited User

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    Just ask Tony W aka T Bone :D :shock:
  7. Eduardo

    Eduardo ODSC-OFTR Member

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    Hi Mike,
    I often zoom in and out while riding.
    To change routes I go someting like this:
    Page, page, page, Page,
    Toggle twice to Routes
    Enter
    Toggle down the list of routes
    Press enter
    Then press enter again.

    All by memory, so I only have to look at the screen for the toggle operations.
    One can feel the buttons to find them w/o really looking.
    On the 76 the buttons are above the screen, so not the best position.
    On the 60/62 the buttons are below... I think this is better.

    So this is the reason I am asking users in OUR collective about their experience: Being so used to my 76, I want to see if the larger screen is worth the change of user interface.

    Eventually I'll test the Montana at a store to check for annoying idiosyncrasies.
    For example, how carefully you have to visually aim (since there are no buttons to feel)
    I am a righty, but have to use the left hand to nav the screen buttons (it feels just like a clumsy navigator :) )
    Is there is a long delay between pressing and activating a switch?
    If it is too instantaneous does one end up pressing multiple times when using on the fly... and all of the sudden the screen is riddled with Starbucks POI. #-o
  8. fitter

    fitter ODSC-OFTR Member

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    The Garmin Montana 600 is on sale at GPS Central until the New Year for $399 ($100 off). No built-in camera but then the camera is no better than the one in your cellphone plus it is a bit of a hassle to get the GPS off the bike just to take a photo. I already have my Nikon if I need a picture and my Contour HD for video. Make sure to also order the rugged mount for putting the unit on the bike.