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  1. Joe

    Joe Limited User

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    I called gpscity and they will do the 2 day shipping for the price of 5 day and only one tax so the 60csx is not a bad deal at 329 but I am going to look into the oregon 550 canadian or 400t before deciding,
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    Well, as for the warranty, I figured that because we use these units on dual sport rides (and also I will use it on my snowmobile), that the vibration and or a fall or some tree branch smacking the unit enough times might cause the GPS to fail where it would not otherwise fail (I would be happy if this unit last 3 years without incident, $10 per year just in case is a piece of mind, I do know of someone who has the 60 csx and he had to use the warranty after 2 years of using the unit).

    I will try the unit outside a little bit more than I already have since I last posted. But I can say that even outside standing still the unit is going crazy (acts as if I am walking around). The weather is raining and there are thin low lying clouds being pushed around by wind.

    My buddy has the 60 csx I will put them side by side and see how his reacts.
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    Larry - The best thing you can do when you get a new piece of electronic equipment is to read the User Manual twice - it won't make any sense the first time - and then use it as much as you can and experiment with different settings. Many of the default settings will need changing for DS use. I've got a write-up on the settings I use that I can send you.

    The full Manual is at https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/manual.jsp?product=010-00421-00&cID=145&pID=309 - in case Garmin doesn't include the Manual in the box.

    The warranty is your call but in general electronic extended warranties are a poor investment.

    Bob
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    Sounds like what the screen looks like when you are way zoomed in too far, zig zag lines for the path you took. I assume you've tried zooming out to like 300m? And I assume you also know you won't see any streets until you purchase and load a map? Just lakes and big highways on the base map.
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    Thanks for all the replies.

    Ya know how it is when you get something new. The first thing ya do is not read the instructions #-o . Ya the unit is working much better now. I really believe it was going crazy because of the weather we were having, and yes I was zoomed in to 5 m scale only because I wanted to see how crazy the unit was working.

    Bob's, I will review your settings, thanks. I already played with switching WASS on and Off (my understanding is that Wass consumes more battery power, and really doesn't help use over here in Canada in our area, because we don't have enough GPS infrastructure yet).

    Know if I can only figure out how to make my own trail maps like someone else knows how to do it. Got to go to the owners manual. See ya.
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    FYI, weather does not affect GPS signal. I've had my Garmin eTrex Vista mounted on the handlebars of my snowmobile in some wicked snowfalls (and downpours!) and it's never lost signal.

    That information won't be in your owners manual :) It's a sequence of operations involving non-sanctioned, third-party applications. It's not terribly difficult, but might be daunting for the less computer literate.
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    It's not really difficult to make your own trail maps now, as there's lot's of information available - Google will bring lots of hits for "Garmin custom maps". I've been doing it for a couple of years now and can give you a copy of the Tutorial I used if you want to try it.

    However, you probably should master the GPS in standard form before trying to customize it.

    Bob
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    Thanks Bob, I will play with the GPS, master this new one I have and then start to dig into the custom map making.

    However, Quick question. About 6 years ago (or 8 years ago now?) I purchased a Garmin Legend (etrek series GPS). At that time I got the CD with maps Rural Ontario Roads CD. I update this software about every year from the Garmin site. Now with my new purchase, inside the map 60 cx box is a CD titled Trip and waypoint manager. Does this new Trip and waypoint manager have any maps on it? Is the program any different than the version I am using from 8 years ago and that i keep up to date with garmin website?

    Should I not install the New CD?

    OH it turns out that my old Rural Ontario Roads CD seems to work fine with my new 60 cx GPS. For instance I was able to download Toronto maps and rural road maps into it, and manage way points too etc.

    I am thinking that if I install the new software it will conflict with the old software and I will lose all my rural road maps. Then I will have to go and buy a new garmin CD. What is your view?

    Ya I know I should read the manual but the first thing it is likely going to tell me is intall the CD... But I don't want to loose my existing mapping capability. #-o

    Thanks.
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    Larry - I didn't know you had a GPS previously - the Legend is the same one I had before getting the 60Cx.

    Garmin maps come with the map viewer program called Mapsource. Garmin also sell it as a separate program called Trip & Waypoint Manager. Seeing as you have been updating Mapsource from the Garmin website, it's probably a newer version than the T&WM, so you don't need to install it but it won't harm anything if you do. T&WM has a very basic world map showing only major highways so it's really no use for anything you will do.

    The old maps you have from the Legend will still work in your 60Cx but they won't provide "Follow Road" auto-routing. If you prepare any routes on your PC you'll only be able to auto-route on the 60Cx Basemap or do Direct (Off Road) routes on your old maps.

    Bob
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    OK, now I have had some time to look at the way my unit is "working"

    So, when it is a cloudy day and when I am standing 100% still and Zoomed all the way in, I can see that my GPS is tracking breadcrumbs as if I am walking in circles. And actually the unit makes an extensive track while I am standing still.

    My question is; is my 60CX defective or is this a normal thing to occur?

    On not so cloudy days this does not happen.
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    Normal.
    You may also notice that when you go back over another trail you've been on, it doesn't track exactly the same line.
    I may be wrong, but I remember reading something about a built in error that publicly available units such as these have. I have the 60cx and mine does this. I am by no means a GPS expert so take it for what it's worth.
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    Thanks for the feedback. I am starting to come to the conclusion it is normal behavior as well.

    You know the technology to locate someone on Earth with some 12 satellites in the sky (hundreds of miles up) must be mind boggling. A few ziz zagging when cloudy is expected I guess.

    Unless I hear otherwise from the group, I will take this occurrence to be normal.
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    http://www.shopbot.ca/pp-garmin-gpsmap- ... 22898.html

    http://www.shopbot.ca/default.asp?kw=Ga ... ion=search

    This site will show you the cheapest price in Canada. GPS Central will match it (at least they did for me)with only one tax plus if you tell them you are an odsc/oftr member, they won't charge you shipping.

    GPS City will also match it but will charge you both taxes because the other company they are matching would charge both too.

    I landed up buying mine from GPS City but sent them the e-mail from GPS Central (which arrived after I purchased from GPS City) about the one tax. GPS City eventually credited me the other tax. My suggestion, go with GPS Central, they won't give you a hassle, I wish I did.
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    So I have been using the unit now 3 times while snowmobiling. I came into an issue or maybe it was just a one time glitch. While riding in about -10 oC weather on a bumpy trail, the GPS map screen did not show movement. The screen was not updating. I pressed page button on the GPS and nothing happened, it was similar to when say your computer freezes and you just see on the monitor what it was that you were last doing.

    When I turned the GPS off and on all normal functionality came back. And at that point I noticed that I lost about 2 or 3 km of tracking.

    Any comments? is this normal for the unit once in a blue moon? (I never seem to have any luck with GPS units, they seem to always become glitch right out of the box after the first few off road / snowmobiling trips).