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  1. Smiley_Rider

    Smiley_Rider ODSC-OFTR Member

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    I am in the market for my first gps and I would like some opinions from knowledgeable people.
    I ride mostly offroad, with a few weekend trips up north

    I was looking at the trail tech voyager, it looks like an excellent unit. its only downside is a lack of topo maps. How important is this feature when you are riding? I can just get an app for my smartphone and download all the topo maps in canada for like 12 bucks.
    I have never ridin following gps tracks, but is it necessary to have the topo information on display while riding? Seems like all you need to know is when the next turn is coming up.

    The typical garmin units seem like they would be clunky to operate. I'm from the touchscreen generation and buttons suck. So iwould probably have my smartphone in my pocket with all the topos anyways

    Any experience shared with the voyager would be appreciated.
    Or any reasons why I would need a garmin gps.

    Thanks
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    calling Dual Sport to the bat phone....

    seriously if you have never needed one or rode with anyone with one before - keep on the iphone route.
    once you do an event/weekend ride, and see what guys are using to navigate - then come back with questions.

    the typical unit that can do almost everything you need for a dual sport/ride - is the Garmin 60 series. Not clunky at all.
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    DualSport Ride Organizer

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    I've never seen anyone using a Trail Tech Voyager, but then I only do Dual Sport riding and good GPS maps are essential for that. If you ride mainly offroad then I'd assume your main need is for a GPS to mark your truck's location so you can find it again, and one that loads GPX files so you can follow other people's tracklogs. Most Garmin GPS do this - almost anything from the lower lower priced Etrex to the high end Montana would work - depends on your budget.

    If you were OK with the Voyager pricing then take a look at a Garmin 78s - they are about the same price but you have a lot more "GPS features" in a 78s. The 62s is almost the identical GPS, looks much better, but cannot be wired direct to the bike's battery as it only takes a 5V USB input - the 78s accepts 12V direct from the battery.

    Try searching for reviews on a few of the GPS that are in your price range (look at GPS City website for "Handheld Garmin GPS" for good pricing) and see what their key features are. Most GPS have Forums dedicated to specific models, so you can always search for them and then browse/ask questions.

    Bob
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    I have the Trail Tech Voyager on my Beta. I love everything it does except GPS mapping.

    I've given up trying to use it as I could not load maps or routes easily as it uses open source maps which just did not work well. Nor could I get it find POI's easily.

    I then bought a cheap chinese GPS. It's better in that it came with maps for NA and I operates like a car GPS. Not good for trails but will navigate me to the nearest gas station or get me home on the roads.

    Right now, I see a lot of people using the touch screen Garmins. Though pricey, for the long term I they look like the way to go.
  5. Smiley_Rider

    Smiley_Rider ODSC-OFTR Member

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    I love this forum, three replies and three excellent point of views.
    Based on what was said I will keep my eye out for a good deal on a real gps. The etrex 20 was on sale for 200 bucks with all the Canadian topo maps installed. But i think i will wait for something better, maybe a 62 or a 78, which ever goes on sale first.

    That being said, if the voyager goes on sale for some reason, I think i will still pick one up, apparently it is a great dashboard

    Thanks for pointing me in a direction
  6. Neil Edmunds

    Neil Edmunds ODSC Executive

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    The TrailTech Voyager is a handy little unit if you just want a track recording device. Forget it for GPS work for dual sport rides. Too tedious making up maps. The worst thing is not being able to differentiate tracks properly. It has only a regular line or a dark line available. If it also had dotted regular and dotted dark, it would much more useful for assigning a style to a particular type of track.

    If you have NO instrument at all, the Voyager might be worth considering, but I'd say get a real GPS instead.
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    3BeeJay3 ODSC Past President

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    FWIW, my one time experince with a TrailTech unit was that it didn't hold up for the long term. Can't recall if it was a Vector or ? I suspect they arent as waterproof as they need to be. The wiring is pretty lightweight as well.
    Not sure if that stuff has been improved on the Voyager or not.

    I'd suggest just getting a good Garmin unit.
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    I've got the etrex 20 and like it. Does everything I need. Its small so thats good or bad. Hard to see sometimes. I've got it in a RAM mount and it stays put. I'm new to GPS and have found it easy to operate. Its cool to use base camp to see where you went on the weekend or a long trip too.
  9. Smiley_Rider

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    The garmin 62s is going on sale this Wednesday at sail for $200
    I think i will pick it up. Does anyone know if they sell all the canadian topo maps for it there as well? Seems like a necessary thing to have on a gps.

    I guess the 62 is being replaced by the 64. The only upgrades seem to be better screen visibility in sunlight, live charging of the nimh battery, and iPhone connectivity. Everything else is just slightly better than the 62.
    All in all doesn't seem like a worthwhile upgrade to me. Especially when the 62 is half the price
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  11. Smiley_Rider

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    So back roads is the way to go then? When I go on their website to buy it my Web browser freezes. How much is it?
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    The 62s for $200 is a good deal - not worth the extra for the 64s. If you are mainly running it from internal batteries then you're OK, but if you want to wire it into the bike's 12V battery you'll need a miniUSB cable with a built-in voltage regulator for the 5V input. There's many reported issues of the GPS's USB connector failing when used on bikes due to the vibration.

    The 78s is the same GPS in a marine case but has a suitable 12V input connector.

    If you are on a tight budget, don't buy maps as you can get OK ones for free at GPS File Depot. They have both road maps (OSM) and Topo (Ibycus), although the Ibycus maps are now more complicated to get.

    Bob
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    I recently checked out the sail flyer and the only GPS on sale will be the etrex 20 for 220.oo

    Correct me if I'm wrong smiley rider, I'd definitely pick up a garmin 62 if it were going for 200 bones!
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    Also, check GPSCity and GPS Central for the best prices. Sail and Canadian Tire, two popular go-tos, do not have competitive prices. GPS Central had a free shipping offer for ODSC members that might still apply.
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    I am 100% sure they have the garmin 62s on for 200. The sale will start on May 1st.
    So get em while they are hot?

    I really appreciate everyone's input on helping me decide
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    The Sail website has the 62s listed for $200 today. Great deal!

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  17. Smiley_Rider

    Smiley_Rider ODSC-OFTR Member

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    So i picked up the 62s at sail and the deal is better than I thought. I didn't pay hst, it was $192 out the door
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    Hey smiley rider, I was wrong sorry! Must have been the old flyer..

    After seeing your post, I immediately went out and purchased the same GPS. Can't go wrong at that price!

    I'm having trouble with the base map though.. Seems really stripped down.. Is the back roads maps the way to go you think for dual sport riding?

    Thanks
  19. Smiley_Rider

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    Yeah the base map is almost useless
    I got the ibycus maps (thanks bob), and they are very good. Especially considering the price (whatever you can afford for a donation)
    back road maps may be better, but I can't afford them at this point

    ibycus is a 3gb download, so it takes awhile. And you may need a spare micro sd card to install it on.

    Hope this helps
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    Nah, you're not having trouble with the base map... there just isn't much there, which is why you cannot find any roads other than the largest.

    As Smiley_Rider says, definitely check out the free maps before spending any $$$. Along with the Ibycus free topi maps, you can download decent free, routable OpenStreet Maps maps from http://garmin.openstreetmap.nl. Definitely read the Manual and/or FAQ because it's easy to become confused.